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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
@Tim, actually, there is almost no real data of successful cases on iOS development.There are millions of apps, enterprises gathering millions of users, but almost no one talking about sustainable revenues or profits in the long run.Even cases like angryBirds are overrated. Technology bubbles. I am not asking about a business plan, but only for advices from people with real iOS bussiness model background.By the way, the 30% is just for putting myself in a realistic worst scenarios :-). Anyway, i vote for closing the subject.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
thanks for your answer.I agree with you, but mobile optimized web doesnt give you the same user experience than a native app. I am seeing mobility as something complementary, but not as the center of the business. 100K purchases just give a salary for 2 or 3 developers for one year. And to me, 100K real purchases is not doable for everybody.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
Thank you very much. "Wooden Labyrinth 3D" example was shocking. 10 million downloads. 100 million of iAds served. 1 million of real clicks. Just $30K of revenues. I think that after all of this years of lab experience on apps markets, i really think that the way to evolve is to develop quality apps that deserve being purchased. Or being lucky, create a social community around a free app, so after that you can turn it into a prepayed app.There is a lack of case studies out there.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
first, thank you very much for your answer. I think you have touched the core of the debate on the 4th point.I understand mobile apps as something that suits as an extension of a larger business, but not being the core business. Although there are examples out there that are "core", like TurboScan or AngryBirds, i am almost sure this is not common. That was the reason i opened this thread: to double check opinions before starting to think seriously to invest on apps business. There is almost no information about profit studies,but there are millions of apps, so it makes me think.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
@David, yes, you are totally right. But the real deal is to find 10 ideas (for 10 apps) that are unique, not yet implemented, and, of course, profitable to obtain 20K a year :-). I don't think so this is a real situation for an average studio :-). I am still trying to convince myself ... :-)
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
@Ryan Doom, thanks for your tips. Are really useful, and be sure i will take them into consideration. But as i wrotte before, apps store market is really dissapointing from the perspective of bussiness model. App store enviroment is not that awesome for business from my perspective. If you want to build up a team working full time on your product, you need hundred ot thousands of revenues per year, so it means millions of purchases.And we all agree that monthly subscription (the real deal) is very rare on this platforms.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
So from my point of view, achiving 200.000 customers in 2-3-4 years that want to pay for your app (200.000 to obtain just an extra $40-$50K of revenues. And we can agree that $50K in 2-4 years is really dissapointing from the point of bussiness view), looks to me really really difficult. I really don't know how are doing some startups to make it profitable. And there are no stats about real companies that are really obtaining profits for just mobile apps. Or maybe its just a personal perception :-)
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
thank you very much for your answer. Maybe i was not that accurate writting my doubt, but its obvious that when you have to calculate your ROI, there are tons of expenses that aren't just the gross salary payments for developers. What i was trying to explain is that even maintaining the app cheap (for instance, outsourcing IOs art designer for fix price in the beggining), the ROI is not going to be under $40-$50K for sure for a minimum viable and quality product.If you sell for $1,you get 50% of revenue (not profits),you will need 100.000 real purchases/customers. And just for ROI.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
I agree with the article. There is a kind of bubble on apps stores. In one hand you gain a world market just a few clicks ago, but in the other hand, you produce low prices. Anyway, thank you very much for your information and time answering my doubts. I have more knowledge about ROIs and apps perspective :-).
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
Hi rbwhitaker. ok, lets say we just hire a good designer and iOS developer for 6 months. It gives as 50K$ of salaries between both of them in 6 months (just talking aproximately). So if we have a ROI of 50K$, and we are making $0.49 per sale on average, we obtain 100.000 real purchases (if we sell the app at $1). Or 50.000 real purchases if we sell it for $2. But just for ROI. So my question. Is it really doable achieve 100K real purchases? Is iPhone platform really that profitable? To me it looks really far to achieve that number of purchases, even if your product is quality.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
4. Regarding to refunds, i have read that new Apple policies specify that when an app is refunded, Apple doesn't refund its 30%, so has to be the developer the one that has to refund the 100% of the app. 5. Lets assume your numbers (50% of profits for each purchase), and 50K$ x 3 developers = 150K$ in one year. We still need 300.000 real purchases to pay one entire year (and not counting third expenses). 6. I am so sorry, but i wouldn't enter a risk of 150K$ just for working in something i love :-). 7. So my questions is still on the air (thank you so much for your answer again)
Feb
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
Regarding to you answers. 1.Normally, if you want your app to be professional and successul (complicated app), is not common that you are the designer, ios coder and web app developer. So lets say you need a minimum of 3 persons. 2. from my point of view, and at least in my case, i only have one good idea, so at the end, i will be dependable of one app :-). 3. I mentioned 30% of refund to put myself in a very bad case scenario that could be possible.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
first at all, thank you very much for your long post and time.
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comment How is it possible to make a profit off of iPhone apps?
@NetTecture, to me a return number of 30% is possible, and i think is very good to put yourself in the worst scenario. Anyway i apologize and will try in the future to be more accurate on my questions.
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