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I've been voraciously reading about startups for the last week, this site included. Unfortunately, I've come to the conclusion that the equity structure of our startup needs to change and I would like some feedback on what I should do and how I should approach it. This is a lot to chew on, but I felt it necessary for getting a feel of the situation.

Back-story About 3 months ago 2 friends and I decided to come together for a venture. One of the co-founders, who is non-technical, call him A, had the original idea for a piece of software in his non-technical line of work. He proposed starting a software company with my friend, call him B, who is technical (more sys-admin than programmer, with an eye for design that I don't have, but which is less necessary in this project). My friend then came to me knowing that I had the skills they needed to make the project work.

From the beginning I knew two crucial facts: A could only be part time because he has a job and does not have the resources (or is unwilling at this time to procure them) for being fulltime, and B would not be fulltime because he is in his last semester of school. On the other hand, I work a high-paying hourly contract job which is very flexible so I can and have been able to devote a lot of time to the development of the project. A is essential to the project because of his domain knowledge and understanding of the customer, though there is less overall work for him (than me) to do until the company comes out of stealth-mode.

I early on pushed for getting an operating contract agreed to by all three because I intuitively believed "make things explicit" would prevent heart-ache in the long run. My one big mistake was not doing due diligence, that I've now done, on how things should be done for a startup. The agreement that we are currently under is each founder gets a third, but we log our hours and get paid an hourly wage (significantly less than my contract rate but significantly more than A's salary rate) which will be paid when when the company starts making money. The wage was a concession to me because I knew I'd have a lot of up front labor (but its now not seeming worth the risk its supposed to offset).

Though I initially (with misgivings) agreed to those terms, now everything I've read has lead me to conclude that vesting is a necessary component and that the equity dispersement should be completely restructured. The problems I see with the current implementation are as follows:

  • Since equity is already dispersed future contributions (or lack there of) are not taken into account
  • There is little incentive for a founder to work on the project, since his equity is already guaranteed (In the long run the wage component seems negligible)
  • The equity split does not take into account that I am taking on much more risk in both labor and opportunity cost
  • Based on what I've read from Noam Wasserman, Frank Demmler, and many others, both my experience and raw ability should give me starting equity positions greater than B (as should A's be greater than B because of his domain experience and knowledge

I've now approached the others on this touchy subject and have definitely felt a big push back. My understanding of A's argument is that vesting is too co complicated, what we have already agreed upon works, we won't fall into the traps latent in the problems I outlined above, and that we should instead be focusing on the product. I feel like going forward with the way it is currently would likely be a huge mistake, which is supported by another friend who is a co-founder of a separate startup which has received VC money. I've put in about a 200 hours (compared to 30 for B and 60 for A) and the project idea and implementation look supremely promising.

So here are my questions, and please be critical (ideally there should be at least one person tries to support the other side):

  • What would you do or have you done in this situation?
  • Am I justified in requiring a restructuring to a vesting plan before I continue development?
  • Would you consider the current arrangement acceptable? If not, how would you modify it?
  • Am I justified in thinking that a vesting plan should probably place B (and perhaps A due to less risk taken) with less over all equity?
  • Are there reasons why I should keep things the way they are? Any more reasons why things are currently problematic that vesting/restructuring could solve?
  • What would be the best way to convince my co-founders that things need to change, when I've already outlined to one the problems above and still met with resistance?
  • Since I already agreed to the current agreement should I suck it up and chalk it up to a life lesson (even though I feel like its a demotivator for me)?
  • I've considered that hiring a contract programmer whose cost we will all share equally, might allow me to not feel like I getting the short end of the stick so much, while keeping the structure the same. But even so, should I be concerned about the other related problems with the current structure?

Whew, if you made it this far, I applaud you.

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I can't give you an un-biased answer, because I only have your story to go on, and your story is biased by you. Having said that, your description of the situation seems well researched and reasonable.

I've put in about a 200 hours (compared to 30 for B and 60 for A)

These numbers seem quite low to me. Did you guys just start out a few weeks ago? If someone puts in less than 1/4 of a full-time work week, then I wouldn't count that person as a founder at all, so both A and B seem questionable here. On the other hand, if you guys just started this, then maybe you're a bit 'greedy' to worry about ownership already, when your cofounders haven't really had a chance to prove themselves.

and the project idea and implementation look supremely promising.

Hmn, how big is the opportunity here really? I would not play hardball with friends for a nice little side business that provides some extra income. I might play hardball for a opportunity that is potentially life-changing.

I early on pushed for getting an operating contract agreed to by all three

So you guys have had the founder's discussion, and you have created a contract between you that solidifies the 1/3 - 1/3 - 1/3 equity split. Well, then you have a problem. It's basic human nature to hate loosing property, and if you renegotiate this split now then you'll most likely demotivate your cofounders, or possibly even start a feud.

Am I justified in requiring a restructuring to a vesting plan before I continue development?

Justified in a moral, or contractual sense? In a moral sense, maybe, but maybe not. In a contractual sense, most likely not, but go see a lawyer about this. But one thing that I'll say, over the years my approach to business has become less about "just" and more about "realpolitik".

Am I justified in thinking that a vesting plan should probably place B (and perhaps A due to less risk taken) with less over all equity?

As you have presented the facts, I would say yes.

Since I already agreed to the current agreement should I suck it up and chalk it up to a life lesson (even though I feel like its a demotivator for me)?

Phew, that's a hard one. All I can say is look inwards, look at your life's circumstances and your personal values, and take advice from your closest ones but keep the decision yours.

Three thoughts to leave you with:

  • Over time, opportunities to change things will present themselves. If you seize these opportunities when they arrive, you may be able to gradually chance things without demotivating your cofounders too much.
  • Maybe you can re-cast the whole company proposition, and use this 'new' situation as leverage for change, and face-saving device for your cofounders? Maybe the first costumer feedback is so strong that you all need to go full-time and seek additional funding, and those who do not follow must naturally accept a certain ownership dilution? Or do you have a better, more appropriate scenario for your company?
  • Many people don't ever get a 'good' business idea. If you now have a 'good business idea', maybe you first thoughts should be about execution, and how you can motivate your cofounders to their maximum, so that they add more value than they do today.
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+1 for comment on the hours. So far, this hasn't been a high level of effort on anyone's part. – Joseph Fung Dec 31 '09 at 15:40
I think the opportunity has the potential to be life changing (but that may be inexperience talking), in that my goal is "I'll never have to work again". Thanks for helping to put things in perspective in terms of time spent. I guess I feel like its a lot because I feel like the project has progressed very far. I recognize that there hasn't been a lot of time spent yet, which is why I thought it better to broach now than down the road when a lot more is at stake. Excellent and very helpful reply. – duediligence Jan 2 '10 at 6:58

There are couple of things I have learned in 12 years of startups with all those victories and scars:

  • Don't get greedy (in this case I think you are)
  • Value you give yourself is often too high, come down to earth
  • Everyone is replaceable (I know devs especially hate admitting that)
  • Don't waste your time on anything but equal splits, because you will be squabbling over % in $0 until you have a product that brings revenue beyond "ramen profitable"
  • If you go into business with your friends, expect to loose them
  • Startups are comprised of those who make, those who sell, and those who maintain (and neither of the three are more important or valuable than the other)

And most important: commitment before ego!

P.S. I have to be honest with you, I am reading a lot of ego in your story. As Joseph suggested, focus on building 1.0. If you ever get a chance for VC or exit (and that is always a HUGE if), investors/buyers will tell you what you are worth or simply squeeze you out. C'est la vie.

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First, you're never going to have a "perfect" startup experience. Every new startup is a new learning opportunity. Considering you've collectively only put in ~300 hours, this seems to be a VERY early stage effort, and trying to renegotiate equity at this stage seems premature.

You asked about chalking it up to a life-lesson, and my reaction is yes.

Spend your energy on getting to v1.0, and once you get to the point of needing additional investment or time (which will likely happen), use that as the opportunty to open up the equity discussion again.

You're going to learn a lot during your startup - take this as lesson one, and learn from it before the next round of investment and negotiations.

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  1. I'm a big fan of vesting. A friend blogged on the precise topic. My business is predicated on the benefits of vesting.

  2. The number of hours put so far are so small that in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

  3. Your current assessment is more or less correct, however, you (like all of us) suffer from bias. Sure, currently you are doing all the work. So you feel cheated by only owning 30%. But project yourself in the future. Three months from now, you are done developing the product. Now what? It needs to be sold. Someone needs to pitch it to companies, meet them, cajole them and eventually collect orders. That's when your co-founder A will step in. Will he deserve his 30% cut then? I'd think so.

Basically, don't underestimate the effort required to sell a developed product (I blogged about this as well...).

I think an equal split among founders was a reasonable choice. Think of it this way: it was not your idea. Would you feel it's fair to get more than 50% of the equity? At best, maybe you deserve 50%. Right now, you have 30%. If this becomes a multi-million dollar opportunity, the difference, while significant, is not that much.

PS: the only thing I'm unclear about is the value of co-founder B. But sometimes, the nugget of insight you get from a 5-minute discussion with a co-founder is worth just as much as the 3 days of coding you just put in. The clock is the enemy of the co-founder.

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I cited your blog on this topic among several other references in my attempt to convince them of vesting. I suspect that I am underestimating the effort to sell it as well. From a straight up business perspective (decrease labor input to increase profit), it seems like it should sell itself. I'll get a reality check as soon as we try to sell it, which is why I'm trying to do that sooner than later. And it seems contradictory to say that a 20% difference is not that much but also significant, maybe you can explain further. Seems like a lot to me. – duediligence Jan 2 '10 at 7:48
I don't think I deserve even 33% at this point. I haven't put in the sweat yet, which is why I advocate vesting (and I think you'll agree). Though depending on what happens during the course of the project, I could see myself thinking I deserve over 50% (for instance, in the very unlikely event that both A and B decide to take sabaticals and leave me to make the thing a success, which it would be very difficult with out A). – duediligence Jan 2 '10 at 7:51

The first question that needs answering in order to help you is "What type of agreement do you currently have in place with the other founders? This will determine whether there's a point in discussing the current arrangement, as you may find it to be legally difficult to change if you have a contract, a corporation with joint ownership already established, etc.

You may, however, be in a similar situation to some startup founders, where all you have is something called a Statement of Understanding. What this document does is outline the premise under which the startup will operate until you have the time and resources to create a formal contract, at which point, that document will be used as the basis for that contract.

I will assume, for the sake of argument, that you are in that situation of having only a Statement of Understanding (which is not legally binding, but does have legal implications).

Getting over the fact that you made a lousy arrangement, at least as presented here, with no vesting schedule at all, you need to move forward. As asked in one of the other answers, how long have you been working on this? I've worked for several months on developing an idea, and it took several hundred hours. Over the course of a couple weeks, though, my contribution has often been proportionally less than that.

Realize that in developing a large project, at least initially, there will be a lack of balance between the various contributing parties, but that doesn't make any one of them less important than the others. For example, if one person's expertise is sales, you wouldn't expect them to put in a lot of work until significant progress had been made on the development.

That being said, you need to evaluate not only whether you are putting in an "unfair" proportion of the work (for which you will, eventually, be paid for), but also whether you expect the others to put in a large contribution once you've mostly completed development. If that is the case, then leave your arrangement alone, and move on, lesson learned.

If, however, you don't believe that the others will contribute at a later date in amounts matching your own, then you need to decide if it's even worth the battle, if you should surrender, or back away entirely from the project. Perhaps give yourself some benchmarks to help you make the decision.

Opening negotiations that will affect the equity structure can create a lot of tension, and potentially destroy any arrangement between you. If anyone leaves the negotiation feeling resentful, then you may find the entire group falls apart as a result. You need to start by offering something that's to their advantage, not by making requests or demands.

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Legally speaking, I'm not precisely sure what kind of agreement it is. Basically we wrote up expectations without the presence of a lawyer and signed it and there is no legal entity yet for the business. I expect it to be a legally binding contract, but could you illuminate me on the differences of the two? I also will abide by the letter of the contract, if neither are convinced to change it, though that could mean me contributing less than I have (not good). I'm not explicitly making demands at this point, but backing away from the project is basically making a demand. Good post. – duediligence Jan 2 '10 at 7:30
First, based on your description of what you have, it's probably not a legal document. The difference this makes is in how it's interpreted in the case of conflict - according to how a non-lawyer would understand it, or according to the letter of what's written. That being said, even if it isn't legal (for an example, read my post this coming Friday on Founders Agreements at blog.optimalupgrades.ca) you still have to abide by it, and it can be taken to court. – Elie Jan 3 '10 at 3:02

I can't judge your current (and desired) equity agreement. I've never been engaged in a venture that required a more sophisticated plan than a simple 50/50 cut.

Negotiation 101: What's in it for the other person?
Find (or add) something in you new plan that benefits the other founders, THEN convince them that your proposed solution is better.

You do have one advantage: there's three of you. You only need to convince one of them (A or B), not both, that your plan is better.

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Bismarck said "Politics is the art of the possible." and it seems good advice for this situation. Although it certainly sounds like the equity share and lack of vesting were a mistake in the original agreement, it's going to be tough to simply re-write the agreement (at least without someone feeling pissed off).

If I were you, I'd explain to your partners that you feel the agreement is inequitable because of the amount of work you're contributing and then meet to try to get two changes introduced:

  1. The lack of vesting is a mistake because it puts higher risk on the founders that put in the earlier effort (in this case the development). Take a date from your plan when your startup will pivot from a product development driven mode to a sales growth driven mode. Effort in the first phase should be rewarded primarily with equity; effort in the second phase should be rewarded primarily with wages/commission. Founders should 'earn-out' their promised equity during the first phase.

  2. Ask your co-founders how they can help contribute more (during the first phase) so balance what you're contributing. Perhaps some more research or marketing work could be done earlier. The best solution is going to be one where they match your effort (and therefore justify their 33% share). If they seriously can't imagine contributing the same number of hours, they may be more accepting of a lower equity share.

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Point 1 makes sense to me based on my research. I expect we will all be contributing to sales and marketing (though me less than the others). I think intuitively I understood your second point because I've been pushing for an earlier release (but not that sacrifices quality), for the purpose of doing market testing and validation, but also because its an area where A and B can contribute more. But I don't think they are in a position to match my effort because of the other obligations (school and day-job). – duediligence Jan 2 '10 at 7:37

Incentives drive behavior.

When it comes to money (and equity) issues even the closest friendships can go sideways.

When it comes to equity the only thing that matters is what is on paper.

If you are already arguing with your business partners (at day 0), you'll probably argue (or be bitter) forever.

Life is short, maybe there is another opportunity you should pursue since you have invested relatively little time to date and just chalk it up to lessons learned?

Tough situation you are in. Sometimes you just have to lay it on the table and let the chips fall where they do. Be open, honest and to the point. Who knows, if it all blows up maybe it is for the better in the long run, as good friendships are hard to come by.

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